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Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:19:25 +0000

The biggest error that can be found in almost all position on divorce is the failure to differentiate between marriage and covenant bondage or covenant obligation. It is imperative to understand in sequence when these things end or become invalid in the divorce and remarriage process. Because there is common ground in the different positions found in the Old Testament, it is the best place to start. There, there is mutual consent that God tolerated divorce and remarriage even though it was not His will. The fact that remarriage resulted in a binding marriage then should not be overlooked now. This is the point of contention in the opposing views. This is where the mutual road of understanding forks.
Remarriage had both legal and moral obligations. It resulted in a subsequent covenant of marriage in which those who entered therein where bond. The point I’m making is remarriage was not only a legal marriage but one that resulted in a moral obligation to remain faithful. Covenant responsibilities ensued in remarriage. These facts are either set aside, denied or forgotten by some in the permanence view when it comes to New Testament interpretation. Some claim that Jesus changed remarriage possibilities by making it adulterous where it hadn’t been before. They stumble at the fact that remarriage can be both binding and adulterous. An adulterous remarriage for them necessitates the belief that remarriage has no covenant obligation. Only one’s first marriage now is a covenant marriage. For them remarriage is merely a legal procedure that needs to be undone.
As Steven Wilcox says “It is necessary therefore to warn those who have remarried while a former spouse lives that they are in a continuing state of adultery according to the scriptures, and must repent of it by confessing that sin and vacating that relationship.” and “Marriage is a lifelong covenant that will never be invalidated by God while both parties live.”
The immediate question should be, is this true? We fully agree that marriage is intended by God to be a lifelong covenant, but can this covenant be invalidated by God? If marriage is a lifelong covenant that will never be invalidated by God, then why did He tolerate divorce and remarriage? Why doesn’t the bible tell us that remarriage is not a marriage or as some would argue a binding marriage? Steven Wilcox advocates “Marriage survives remarriage and precludes it.” Why doesn’t the bible inform us as these men do that divorce and remarriage is impossible? These question reveal the conflict within the permanence view itself. How should the remarried be instructed?
Most in the permanence view acknowledge that a second marriage after divorce supplants the former. They as the proviso view does stays with this Old Testament reality. It becomes necessary for those who disagree to either deny this reality or to advocate that Jesus change it. The confliction within the permanence view itself reveals something amiss. Someone is adding to the Word of God. Who? Which permanence view advocate should we believe? If the permanence view advocates can’t arrive at the same conclusion, is there a better view? Who is reading into the words of Christ?

Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:13:30 +0000

* Judy has a written letter on another web site as well as a You Tube segment detailing her story.

* Bob you deduce from what you believe that God won’t forgive this case of adultery unless the remarried couple divorce. I believe He will if His Spirit draws them to repentance. Two wrongs won’t make a right. We should forsake sin where our actions don’t result in more sin. In this case God is the only one who can absolve the sin of adultery. If Judy’s marriage had been adulterous, divorce would not have render her guiltless.

Comment on Legalized Adultery by bob

bob — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:09:06 +0000

@Neal

>>>With the exception clause redefined in her mind she doesn’t realizes that her husband had justifiable grounds for divorce in regard to his former wife.

Judy didnt tell why her second husband and his first wife seperated. All she noted was her second husbands wife didnt remarry. So where do you get that he had ustifiable grounds for divorcing his former wife.

>>>Ask these permanence view advocates to show you where Jesus or any New Testament writer instructed the remarried to abandon their present union and you will find that they will resort to deductive reasoning from their premise.

The Bible states that unlawful marries are adultery and the Bible clearly instructs us to forsake all sin. So the question really is, is a marriage to a person that has a living covenant wife adultery? If it is adultery then it needs to be forsaken.

The Bible doesn’t give examples of separating polygamy marriages in the NT either but that is not a case for not separating polygamy marriages. Polygamy is sinful and therefore we know those in that sin need to separate.

>>>A second marriage is acknowledge as such in scripture even if adultrous.

The fact that it is acknowledged as a marriage doesnt mean it should not be forsaken.

>>>“Judy’s story” (in it’s entirety) reveals the belief that an adulterous remarriage is unforgivable in it’s present condition. This is not only extra-biblical but subverts God’s plan of salvation. We must not offer a plan of salvation that is pharisaical in nature.

Sin is only forgiven when forsaken. If you wont forsake your sin you cant be forgiven.

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Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:19:46 +0000

The eisegesis hermeneutic of the Pharisees added many laws to their interpretation of the Law. By reading into God’s Word they created more restriction to be observed. You couldn’t be right with God unless you followed all these laws. The Judaizers of the early Church had added circumcision as the means to salvation. Denominations of our time add water baptism. Within the permanence view there are those that advocate that the remarried can’t be forgiven unless they vacate their present marriage. These teachers have been successful in getting individuals to divorce their present spouse in hopes of experiencing forgiveness. “Judy’s story” (in it’s entirety) reveals the belief that an adulterous remarriage is unforgivable in it’s present condition. This is not only extra-biblical but subverts God’s plan of salvation. We must not offer a plan of salvation that is pharisaical in nature.
We are not only instructed not to take away from the Word of God but not to add to it. This is the sinful guilt of those within the permanence view who take liberty to add that Jesus was changing the ability to divorce and remarry. His objective was to change individuals by reestablishing in their hearts the sacred union of marriage and the sinful consequences when one follows their own will. He does not go on to offer a new policy of forgiveness for the remarried. For those who are already remarried God’s grace is sufficient, that is it is enough to experience forgiveness without following extra-biblical counsel to break another marriage. Stay the course that God had in place at the time Christ. Praise Him for the restoration He provided then and now through a penitent heart.

Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:13:55 +0000

For hundreds of years God had not forced perpetual singleness on His people even though they had obstinately insisted on rights to divorce. He had responded to divorce by giving subsequent legislation that prohibited the reclaiming of a wife if she had entered another covenant of marriage (Deut. 24:1-4). Proving that God saw the second marriage as binding. It is wrong to expand the teachings of Christ and make Him to say He is overruling His Father‘s tolerance. Again the text in which Jesus addresses divorce does not address a solution after the fact of remarriage. It doesn’t even prohibit remarriage, but rather exposes it’s consequence. It revealed to the Pharisees and the nation of Israel that their obstinacy had always been sinful. That was Jesus’ point, for hundreds of years God’s people had been adulterating the covenant of marriage. The only solution He gives is, to stay married. He says nothing about undoing remarriages. It is imperative that the Church and for Christians in general, not to offer solutions that add to God’s Word. We mustn’t impress upon the conscience of those who come to realizes their sin, that they are to follow a new formula for forgiveness.

Comment on Weaver’s Country Crafts by bob

bob — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:00:08 +0000

Hi Laurel,

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Bob.

Comment on Weaver’s Country Crafts by bob

bob — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:57:45 +0000

Ha, amazing divine candles, thanks Taylor, keep us in more for more purchases and make sure you tell all your friends. Let us know if you would like to do a candle party.

Bob.

Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 03:54:46 +0000

I meant to say in the above comment that the view Judy believes takes God’s Word one step further than the bible. To advocate that Jesus was saying that from this point on a second marriage after divorce would no longer be a binding marriage exceeds the text, as well as the rest of the New Testament. No New Testament writer ever instructed an individual to leave their second spouse as these men do. No New Testament writer affirms the extra-biblical idea that “Marriage survives remarriage and precludes it”. No New Testament writer ever taught that divorce and remarriage was now impossible. No New Testament writer ever instructed the remarried to vacate there present marriage in order for adultery to be forgiven. These permanence view teachers advocate these things not because the bible affirms them, but because the premise they created logically leads to these conclusions.

Comment on Legalized Adultery by Neal Doster

Neal Doster — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:38:55 +0000

Judy’s story reveals the anguish of a betrayed husband, the feelings of illegitimacy of the two children born of this union. Those who surround her life are confounded by her behavior. Judy is at fault for these things but the source for her actions is the view that takes God’s Word one set further. She doesn’t realize that instead of escaping sin she has abdicated the God ordained role she is responsible to fulfill.
This needless sin, all it infects, affects and effects is revealed in part in her story. The magnitude of harm this one story reveals is compounded by other testimonies of abdication. Christianity itself is unnecessarily maligned all because of those who add to God’s Word. Ask these permanence view advocates to show you where Jesus or any New Testament writer instructed the remarried to abandon their present union and you will find that they will resort to deductive reasoning from their premise. The Bible does not instruct this sin.
What’s so admirable about Judy is she’s doing what she believes God expects her to do. It doesn’t dawn on her that the New Testament never instructs a remarried individual to leave their present spouse. With the exception clause redefined in her mind she doesn’t realizes that her husband had justifiable grounds for divorce in regard to his former wife. A second marriage is acknowledge as such in scripture even if adultrous. But for Judy the indoctrination of the permanence view teachers lead to fear of eternal damnation so she left her husband. Another broken home resulting from an eisegesis interpretation of Scripture. Only eternity will reveal the harm false suppositions like this cause.

Comment on Weaver’s Country Crafts by Taylor S

Taylor S — Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:20:13 +0000

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Comment on Q&A: Do Christians Lose Salvation When They Sin? by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:30:39 +0000

Reading all Scripture in contex gives a clearer picture such as 1 Corinthians 2:1-16

We see this very clearly with Romans 8:1 we often hear the first part of this verse but not the rest so we don’t have a clear picture read again what it is confirming.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Christian Love Anne.

Comment on Q&A: Do Christians Lose Salvation When They Sin? by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:23:56 +0000

To understand God’s Truth we need His wisdom – James 1:4-6 Man in the Flesh or the Natural man cannot understand the things of God, he can only by the Holy Spirit empowering him – 1 Corinthians 2

1 Corinthians 2: 9-16 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that Love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing piritual things with Spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is Spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? but we have the mind of Christ.

2 Peter 1:19-21 We have also a more sure word of Prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the Day Star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Christian Love Anne.

Comment on John Fletcher’s Position On Sinless Perfection by Annie Hope

Annie Hope — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:30:05 +0000

Have you heard the Gospel according to Love, Grace and Mercy…

These three awesome Blessings or Gifts show us we need to have the assurance that God is a Loving Merciful God and that it is not His will that anyone perishes, He tells us He goes after the His Lost Sheep … why is a person lost ? because they have fallen into sin, but not away, meaning they did not reject The Lord Jesus Christ as their Redeemer or their Salvation in Him, to sin wilful is to sin against the Body and blood of Christ by deliberately teaching against them such as Cults do, they are Wolves in Sheep’s clothing.

The lost Sheep sin because they have not been perfected in Love or Born again of God’s seed, Jesus is our Advocate and seeking His forgiveness through repentance shows we are not wilfully sinning or committing the unforgivable sin which is blaspheming The Holy Ghost, calling the good He does evil and this is done deliberately by false teachers as they condemn and slander Him and God’s Children, this is not referring to the many who have been deceived or hurt by others flesh nature, but those the Scriptures warn us about, the wolves in sheep’s clothing . Yes we have in Christ Jesus the strength to resist any temptation, He is our way out but what if we don’t call on Him and we do sin, does it mean we have lost our Salvation? so we are forever doomed ?

No it means we have not been Born again, our fleshy sin nature has not been put to death, but if we a Child of God known to Him from Eternity as accepting His gift of Salvation in Christ Jesus through heart repentance, then we will be forgiven and when we are perfected and sealed by the Holy Spirit we will no longer choose to sin we have been set free from it’s bondage but if we do sin we have not believed by faith that we are set free so until we understand this Truth like the Old Testament Saints we are covered by God’s grace through the blood of Jesus but unlike them we don’t need to make animal sacrifices because Jesus is the final sacrifice. If we go on choosing to sin then we have not come to real heart repentance which means to turn away from evil and so we are also the sheep that are lost, like the Prodigal Son…so can we be saved ? yes if we are a Child of God we already are and were before we were Born, but we haven’t been perfected or Born again of God’s seed 1 John 3:9 or conformed into the image of His Son and we don’t have the mind of Christ who never chooses to sin. If we continue to sin we have not come to true heart repentance and accepted the gift of Salvation which will be shown in our words and actions but not by our pumping up the flesh but through the empowering of The Holy Spirit as we choose to walk in Love.

Thanking you for your time – Christian Love Anne

Comment on John Fletcher’s Position On Sinless Perfection by Annie Hope

Annie Hope — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:27:36 +0000

There is a difference from falling into sin and falling away, the first we can be forgiven of the second is rejecting Jesus Christ eternally but this is because there was no True Salvation in the first place they may have even had Spiritual gifts ( King Saul ) and had communion with God in the Church body ( Ananias, with Sapphira ) and knew all that was necessary for Salvation ( Judas ) but they did not come to true heart repentance so were not sealed and Born again of God’s seed or perfected in Love, they cannot be brought back to true Repentance because they will never seek it and never did to do so would be saying Jesus death was not enough to heal them of the curse or save them for Salvation the first time when they rejected Him and so they would be crucifying Him all over again.

But we must be carful not to judge anyone’s heart focus, we can not know their Destiny by outward appearances, repentance is of the heart but they will bear good fruit if there is genuine repentance coming from Salvation when the flesh is being put to death.

Take Care in Christ Jesus – Christian Love Annie Hope

Comment on How to be More Christ Like by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:26:16 +0000

Wow Chad, are you also Judgmental and arrogant ? so how did that make you feel Chad did it uplift you? do you know my heart or what motivated me to respond to Cam the way I did ? and are you also short-sighted, if God wants Cam to read these posts he will even in 10 years time, your still reading the Bible no doubt, but sadly your putting down your Sister in the Lord is not going to show Cam the Love and Unity we have in Christ Jesus, perhaps you need also to ponder on what the Body of Christ is.

I have shared in a Ministry for Atheists and understand how they think, have you or do you ? also my humour has been used by God to touch other peoples lives with His Truth and not always the one I’m sharing with, if you read again what I shared you will see it is all based on the Truth in the Scriptures not my own understanding. As for falling short you need to read 1 John 3 1-11 and many other Scriptures, of course if your depending on yourself you are right and you will fall short. Please take time to consider your attack on me and I suggest you ask for forgiveness for your lack of respect to those who uphold God’s Truth regardless of the cost to them personally, how they do it is not for you to question or judge when they are lead by the Holy Spirit, what you need to do is test your own spiritChad before you slander others.

Take care – Christian Love Anne.

Comment on How to be More Christ Like by Chad

Chad — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:24:46 +0000

Wow Anne. Well, you’re replying to Cam almost three years after his post, so who knows what his current views are as I’m guessing he has grown in maturity, knowledge, and wisdom. Also, not sure what your post is going to do for him and others, other than make him feel like Christians are judgmental and arrogant. Please go back and read your post from an objective perspective. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn’t know Christ. Would you have interest in pursuing the God of the person who wrote what you did.

Cam, if you are by any chance reading this, please know that the God Christians follow is pure, perfect, and a God of grace. Don’t ever base your understanding of Him on what you see of Christians. We all fall short.

Comment on Weaver’s Country Crafts by Laurel

Laurel — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:29:18 +0000

Hi. Just wondering if you will have a booth up at the Christmas Craft Show at the Western Fair Grounds the first weekend in December? I have your Cinnamon and Berry Aroma Candles and would like to purchase some more as presents for Christmas.

Thank you.

Laurel

Comment on Sin-You-Must Teaching by bob

bob — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:00:56 +0000

Hi MS,

>>>then Jesus doesn’t forgive us for those sins.

Jesus forgives sins when a person repents and forsakes the sin.

If after you are forgiven you go back into a sinful life style you are no longer forgiven for those sins. This clearly laid out in the parable of the unforgiving servant (Mat 18).

>>>You ARE aware that Jesus died for those sins, negating their damning effects under the condition of acceptance and belief, aren’t you?

Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, including those that were and will go to hell.

I think the bible is clear if you walk in a lifestyle of sinning the Bible offers no hope of heaven.

Bob.

Comment on Sin-You-Must Teaching by MS

MS — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:00:24 +0000

If what you say is true, then Jesus doesn’t forgive us for those sins. That mean’s the whole message of redemption through Christ is crap, thereby negating the whole underlying purpose to Christianity, and hence, this very website. (ironic isn’t it?) You ARE aware that Jesus died for those sins, negating their damning effects under the condition of acceptance and belief, aren’t you? For someone who seems to know so much about sin, you sure don’t know a lot about the book that describes it.

Comment on That Is Dying to Self by Noella Thomas

Noella Thomas — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:02:23 +0000

You can write for the tract at

Church in Action, PO Box 707, Springfield MO 65801

It is operated by Becky Britton Volz, Bill Britton’s daughter. Tracts are sent out on a love-offering basis.

The tract isn’t listed on the website and everything I found is listed in various personal blogs.

I attended Bill Britton’s church in Springfield, Missouri – House of Prayer, now called River of Life.

Hope this helps.

Noella

Comment on Except for Fornication Clause of Matthew 19:9 by Andrew Kulikovsky

Andrew Kulikovsky — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:22:30 +0000

Jeremy, I basically came to exactly the same conclusions as you in my detailed exegetical paper:
http://morechristlike.com/documents/mdr_kulikovsky.pdf

Comment on Except for Fornication Clause of Matthew 19:9 by Jeremy W

Jeremy W — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:58:35 +0000

The liguistic case is certainly interesting and has been thoroughly explained. It seems obvious that the clause in question is at best ambiguous. The word ‘MH’ in similiar constructions is never rendered ‘except’. The word ‘EI’ would certainly clean this up, but it is not found in any manuscripts before the life of our friend Erasmus. Context, then, should be used to clear up ambiguity. No where else does Jesus appear to give an out for remarriage. The verse in chapter 5 is a different issue. “Anyone who divorces his wife, except for unfaithfulness, causes her to commit adultery.” Yes, because if she was unfaithful she was already an adulteress. This phrase by Jesus seems to have been intended to show the men in his audience how important their decisions were. To take the exception clause from chapter 5 and photocopy it into chapter 19 is bad Bible.

I would like to point out a thematic issue. Jesus is not in the habit of lowering standards. In fact, he teaches quite the opposite. He places a charge of murder on any one who hates and a charge of adultery on anyone who lusts. Jesus is the great standard raiser. Thus, it makes no sense that Jesus would would make such an eloquent case for men to honor their wives and then throw in an exception clause. Further, the Disciples’ reaction is interesting. They react by declaring that it would be better not to marry. Why would they react so strongly if Jesus had just given them an exception?

Translating the clause as an inclusion clause makes more sense. So, the phrase becomes, “…anyone who divorces his wife, not (even) for sexual unfaithfulness…”. This would explain why the 12 reacted so sharply.

This also fits more with the testimony of Jesus’ life. Christians’ don’t have rights. If my spouse wrongs me by be unfaithful I do not then have the right to marry someone else. I may need to leave her, but I do not have the right to marry another. I will wait for her in case she changes her ways and comes back to me. If she never changes, I will still be waiting. That happens to be what God through Jesus does for all of us.

Comment on Except for Fornication Clause of Matthew 19:9 by Michael Whennen

Michael Whennen — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:10:00 +0000

Please find at this link a critique that Les McFall has written on David Pawson’s new book “Remarriage is Adultery unless…”

http://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/mcfall_pawson_critique.pdf

Comment on Love for Your Neighbor and Enemy by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:10:22 +0000

Washed Potatoes

Dr Bob a Seminary Professor who was teaching on the high cost of being unwilling to forgive, asked each of his students to bring a sack of potatoes to class. and for each person they refused to forgive, they had to select a potato and write on it the person’s name that had hurt them and caused them pain. Then for a month they each had to carry the sack of potatoes with them everywhere they went, even to bed.

The Students were eager not to miss anyone who they felt deserved to be in the sack, some sacks were very heavy, but after a while they all became uncomfortable to carry and the potatoes started to sprout and then rot and stink… One by one the Students lightened the load till no potatoes were left and they then realised that carrying around bitterness and resentment was also a heavy load much more so then the potatoes and the smell that they emitted was not very pleasant… They needed to be washed clean.

We can’t receive forgiveness without forgiving others. If we are not willing to do this and we hold onto our stinking bitterness and resentment we pollute ourselves and others and also cut ourselves off from fellowship with God. Those who have hurt us also need to ask for our forgiveness but even before they do this we have to forgive them just as our Heavenly Father was willing to forgive us and sent His Son Jesus Christ who died for us even while we were still His enemies, He did this so we could be forgiven of our sins and be set free from the control of sin. But like those who have hurt us we can’t receive God’s forgiveness until we say we are sorry from the heart.

What a price God paid so we could be forgiven, it’s a gift we give to others and one we give ourselves, because when we harbour bitterness and resentment, inner Love, Joy Hope and Peace eludes us and we cannot fellowship with the Lord because Light and Darkness are incompatible and cannot be in Unity.

Mark 11: 25-26 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which
is in Heaven forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 5:43-45 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy Neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Music – A New Commandment.

Comment on Love for Your Neighbor and Enemy by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 00:39:26 +0000

Bob if I’m out of line sharing these Inspirational stories please let me know, when I read one of your massagers I remember the Lessons the Lord has taught me on my walk with Him by these stories that has touched my heart over the years and brought a response from me….

Is it easy to Love those who abuse us and to continue to have compassion for them and do good to them when they keep on hurting us …No it is impossible without the empowering of the Holy Spirit, yes we can say we forgive them in our head but real forgiveness must come from our heart and the true sign of forgiveness is seeking fully wholehearted Reconciliation regardless of the cost to us, just as God has done, but sometimes people are hurting so much that they don’t know how to make the pain stop and receive our Love and sometimes it has nothing to do with the hurt we have caused them but it can open the wound more…only God’s Sacrificial Love cannot only heal the wound but erase the scars and yet we can even remember by the scars that we have been healed and be eternally thankful.

Christian Love Anne.

Comment on The Old Covenant & New Covenant Law Compared by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:54:48 +0000

Dart Test…

A young lady named Sally, relates an experience she had in her Missionary Outreach class, given by her teacher, Dr. Bob She says that Dr. Bob was known for his elaborate object lessons.

One particular day, Sally walked into the College and knew they were in for a fun day.

On the wall was a big target and on a nearby table were many darts. Dr. Bob told the students to draw a picture of someone that they disliked or someone who had made them angry, and he would allow them to throw darts at the person’s picture.

Sally’s friend drew a picture of someone who had stolen her boyfriend. Another friend drew a picture of his older brother. Sally drew a picture of a former friend who had lied and deceived her, putting a great deal of detail into her drawing, even drawing pimples on the face. Sally was pleased with the overall effect she had achieved.

The class lined up and began throwing darts. Some of the students threw their darts with such force that their targets were ripping apart. Sally looked forward to her turn, and was filled with disappointment when Dr.Bob, because of time limits, asked the students to return to their seats. As Sally sat thinking about how angry she was because she didn’t have a chance to throw any darts at her target. Dr. Bob began removing the target from the wall.

Underneath the target was a picture of Jesus. A hush fell over the room as each student viewed the mangled picture of Jesus; holes and jagged marks covered His face and His eyes were pierced.

Dr. Bob said only these words… “In as much as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me.” Matthew 25:40.

No other words were necessary; the tears filled eyes of the students focused only on the picture of Christ.

Matthew 5:43-45 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt Love thy Neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Love and hate can not co-exist, they are not in Unity we can’t have Love in our heart while ever we hate someone and without Love the Holy Spirit can’t fill us with the rest of His good fruit. Galations 5:22-25

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great Commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt Love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.

Music – A New Commandment To Love One Another as He has Loved us.

Comment on Sinless Perfection by Anne Stocks

Anne Stocks — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:22:58 +0000

Dart Test…

A young lady named Sally, relates an experience she had in her Missionary Outreach class, given by her teacher, Dr. Bob She says that Dr. Bob was known for his elaborate object lessons.

One particular day, Sally walked into the College and knew they were in for a fun day.

On the wall was a big target and on a nearby table were many darts. Dr. Smith told the students to draw a picture of someone that they disliked or someone who had made them angry, and he would allow them to throw darts at the person’s picture.

Underneath the target was a picture of Jesus. A hush fell over the room as each student viewed the mangled picture of Jesus; holes and jagged marks covered His face and His eyes were pierced.

Dr. Smith said only these words… “In as much as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me.” Matthew 25:40.

No other words were necessary; the tears filled eyes of the students focused only on the picture of Christ.

Brad.. I Love and pray for you in The Lord’s empowering I’m sorry I hurt you – God bless you greatly- Anne.

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brad.dickey@gmail.com — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:53:21 +0000

Irresistable, isn’t ot. Charm or.chasten. Talley.as many.asnyou.can. typical nod, or borderline personality.disorder. that is.the name of the.disorder. read about the literal.dangers from such.people, hopefully I’m.wrong. well, I.can’t be.wrong, I.can’t diagnose yoi, and wouldn’t, but I.can identified inherent behaviors exhibited before us all.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:19:25 +0000

Sorry Bob I need to be more careful when posting Scripture…I have corrected it below…

Hi Bob, one thing that has become very true for me in my Christian walk and to me the word Christian means Christ in you/me a Name I’m proud to be known by and that is God’s Love is what it’s all about, but His Love is not the same as man’s fleshy worldly understanding of Love.The two Scriptures that show me the heart of God are…

1Corinthians13:1-8 & Galatians 5:22-26 but many others speak to my heart.

Thank you for your patience with me – Kind regards Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:10:35 +0000

Continued….

Another very important Truth to know is what John 3:16 is showing us, yes we know that Jesus died for the sins of everyone in the world but to receive forgiveness we need to believe in Jesus Christ His Son as part of the Godhead or Trinity as They are called today. Because to believe in Jesus we must believe that He has the Power to forgive sins and the Scriptures tell us only God can do this so our conviction of our sinfulness will also bring through The Holy Spirit an assurance that Jesus Christ Romans 10:8-10 & 1 Corinthians 12:3 … is Lord which in the Greek means God. God has offered Salvation to everyone but if we deny The Living God Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour we are rejecting God’s free gift of Salvation in Him. John 3:18 which includes deliverance by the Holy Spirit the 3rd person of the Trinity and it is through Him that we are empowered to put our flesh nature to death but as you can see by the confirmation of Scripture we have to choose to walk in Righteousness for this to happen which means we choose to walk by the Spirit not the flesh and this is how we put our flesh to death, Romans 8:12-16 to walk by the Spirit means we choose to walk in Love through His empowering. We can’t pump up our flesh to obey as we are often told, we have been set free from this bondage by Jesus, if we are walking in the Spirit we won’t have to make ourselves obey we will want to because of our Love for God and others. For most of my time in Ministry I believed you had to work at it and of course there were Scriptures that seemed to support this….

I will continue another time… Christian Love Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:34:16 +0000

Hi Bob, one thing that has become very true for me in my Christian walk and to me the word Christian means Christ in you/me a Name I’m proud to be know by and that is God’s Love is what it’s all about, but His Love is not the same as man’s fleshy worldly understanding of Love.The two Scriptures that show me the heart of God are 1 Corinthians:1-8 & Galatians 5:22-26 but many others speak to my heart.

Believe me I have no doubts that I have weaknesses and shortcomings not meaning sins and so do others but what I feel is more important is that my focus is on others strengths not their weaknesses and also not on my own weaknesses Luke 6:41-43 I have just too many so they would overwhelm me but I know as I’m being perfected God will mould and shape me and convict me of what I need to seek His cleansing for. I am indeed a cracked vessel but thankfully He is the Super Glue and His glue sticks fast with Love.

But sometimes correction is needed in regard to error in teaching and with sinfulness so until our flesh Nature has been put to death we need to be willing to be corrected and to be willing to correct others but it must not come from the fleshy Nature but with the leading of the Holy Spirit and in Love. If we Love others we will want to protect them from danger but we will not be seeking to hurt them by condeming them, sadly I have been guilty of this but I have repented and it is also important that we accept correction in Love and not resent it.

So how do we know the difference…Love covers a multitude of sins but it does not condone them or does it promote them but it does forgive them when repented of.

Without repentance which means turning away from sin and seeking to do good a choice we need to make by asking the Holy Spirit to empower us to walk in Love there is no deliverance, there can’t be, because there is no sorrow for the evil we have done or the hurt we have caused others and so we will continue to do evil which shows we don’t Love God or others and this will be evident in our words and actions.

Continued next post….

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:53:13 +0000

Dear Vondi, Thank you for your kind words and I feel very blessed that you wish to share with others how God has touched my heart with His Truth.

My email Internet address is annestocks@ymail.com

If you have any problems with the e-mail address it’s new, please write again and thank you for caring enough to reach out to others, I also would appreciate sharing with someone who has the same focus and will look forward to hearing from you.

Christian Love Anne.

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Vondi — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:23:00 +0000

Anne, I was blessed by your testimony of how the Lord brought you to an understanding of Holiness and living a sinless life! It was beautiful.
Like you and Bob, I have met and continue to meet with a LOT of opposition when I speak of living without sin in this present world. But thank the Lord it is possible through His Power!

Would it be possible for me to use all or portions of your post on a discussion group that I participate in? I would have asked privately but I didn’t have your email address. :o) I would also enjoy communicating with you, if that would be okay.

In Christ,
Vondi.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 06:25:07 +0000

I thought that was a very insightful message Bob and very helpful Godly advice.

I would like to share a bit more about my own Marriage but not now, it’s still too painful, mainly because there has been no restoration. My husband does support me with Doctors visits, shopping etc but does not want to restore our marriage, I feel he hasn’t forgiven me, yes in the head but not his heart, I did hurt him greatly and myself too, but more importantly God…His Love covers a Multitude of sins and for this I’m eternally grateful.

Thank you Bob, I will read your message again, we don’t know what the future holds and God did give me Hope that my marriage would one day be restored in Him and I’m holding on tightly to this…

Christian Love Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 05:46:40 +0000

Hi Bob sorry about the Scripture referance, I have made a few mistakes with these it should be 1John 3:1-11

I also forgot to use the spell check for the added parts.

Not sure what I did, but I lost the rest of my post too anyway I think I have shared enough for now.

But thanks for letting me do so, being disabled gives me more time then others, so I do appreciate it, but let me know if I need to slow down.

God bless you greatly Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 05:20:32 +0000

Hi Bob, so wonderful to know that God has brought you to an understanding of His Truth and that you stand up and share it regardless of the cost to you. I also want to thank you for protecting, me sometimes my weaknesses are very evident, thank you for preventing what would have grieved me greatly.

How did I first come to understand Sinless perfection I had never heard or read about it in all the time I had been attending Churches and still haden’t up till 3 years ago I was always lead to believe you sin till you die but your forgiven, yet my heart told me differantly. I’m not sure how I found your website I think I was serching for someone who was also a believer not many are.

After comming to real heart repentance but because of so much conflicting teaching I felt very unsure about what was Truth and so doubts. One day as I was reading the Scriptures a verse touched my heart, Mark 9:24 some Christians call this a Rhema Scripture, it said… that a man’s son was in need of healing and Jesus asked him do you believe, the man answered yes I believe but please help my unbelief and so I also asked Jesus to help my unbelief.

Not long after this realizing I was very confused because of the conflicting teaching in the Churches and by Theologians and Evangelists even those who had a high profile and yes they all claimed what they believed was True but what they taught was different which means some of them were trusting in their own worldly understanding or what they had been taught instead of God’s Truth. I knew this to be True because The Holy Spirit does not say one thing to one person and something different to someone else when it contradicts and as I knew we are not to agree to disagree but to take our difference to God and he will show us who is in error because we are to have the same focus and to be of one mind and purpose, it confused me greatly because how could they all have the mind of Christ and also be in conflict which was shown by their division .

I prayed to God for His help again and He gave me another Rhema Scripture James1:5-8 that said… if you lack wisdom to ask God and He will give you His wisdom without finding fault but that we must believe and not doubt that we have received it. I asked in Faith for God’s wisdom and I have no doubts that I have received it and that it is growing in my heart and will continue to do so as He perfects me in His Love to conform me to the image of His Son. What God has shared with me He has confirmed in His written word by His Living Word but as I said before I am still learning but I know without a doubt what God has already shown me His Truth and I don’t doubt it …. Jesus tells us we don’t have because we don’t ask with Faith believing what He says He will do and this is very True.

About 3 years ago God lead me to an understanding of Sinless Perfection through reading 1 John 3:1-1, I can’t believe I never saw it before, I had read the Bible a few times although He has showed me other Truth, but it has never worried me as it seems to do others, perhaps because I see it as a wonderful gift that we can all have if we believe. God has now confirmed it with many other Scriptuers but very few accept it as His Truth including my Husband, it is as you say Bob because they don’t understand the freedom we have in the Lord they won’t accept it as His Truth, I find like you I’m abused when I do try to share it, but perhaps don’t handle it has well as you do.

Continued next post…

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:40:12 +0000

Continued …..

Although shocked and distressed by my fallen state, this Elder Lovingly lead me to real heart repentance, anointing me with oil, and that was when my real walk with the Lord began 14 years ago although my Journey with limited heart understanding had begun from the age of 8, almost 52 years ago.

I have never gambled since I was anointed and delivered but I was tempted once, I asked Jesus to help me and I had the victory over the Temptation. Within a very short time of my anointing I was Miraculously healed of two life threatening Illnesses which are Medically documented although they have no explanation how they suddenly disappeared and there have been a few other minor healings over the years as well, and a few signs and wonders witnessed by those close to me and not possible to be done or explained by man, so are not counterfeit and I am not Pentecostal and they were something I did not seek for, although Christians were praying for me …. do I think I’m more worthy then others, no in many ways I have sinned greater then anyone I know personally but I believe The Lord knows what we can handle and gives us the strength to endure and He knows what we need. I am still disabled with a condition I was born with thankfully it has progressed slowly but I’m content in knowing I’m being upheld. Also I still suffer the painful consequences of my sinfulness, my earthly husband of 30 years left me 3 years ago but our marriage had been troubled after the gambling, I am still seeking and praying for restoration, I miss him greatly but I know God will work it all out for good and with every part of me I do not want to hurt my Lord or anyone again in anyway, I Love Him so much and I know this is only a fraction of how much He Loves me and I have deep Joy in my heart even if I’m not happy clappy and so at times have a tear in my eye, but I know without a doubt my Spiritual Husband Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour will never forsake or abandon me …. I wash His feet daily and anoint them with perfume not because of sin, but to bring Him Joy.

Where am I now… Philippians 3:12-14 but I press forward and one day will be able to say 2 Timothy 4:7-8

Christian Love Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:27:15 +0000

Hi Bob, yes I can relate to a 14 year smoking addiction but I was sick with a chest infection and the doctor said I had to give up smoking and I did in the flesh. The Doctor asked me 20 years later whether I smoked, I asked didn’t he remember that he told me I had to give it up 20 years ago… he said so when does anyone listen to me! The physical addiction lasts approx 3 days, the habit or emotional dependence much longer and often addiction is like musical chairs you will go on to another addiction and your trapped again. With me it was first eating then the horror of gambling, both very much part of my flesh Nature and had been for a long time, they say with the gambling addiction it leads to either insanity or suicide, Satan gets a strong foothold and so I went from one sin to the next, yes I tried group therapy and for 3 years it worked, I didn’t gamble but I was still sinning and then gambling again and could not stop although I tried everything I thought would help. I finally decided after causing so much heartache to God, my Husband, and myself that I was worthless and not even God could forgive me. I believe this was also because of having had a great deal of abuse and rejection in my life and because I did not understand the true Nature of God because I had been deceived, but I now have no doubts He is Love even in His justice. I hated what I had become and so I decided to throw myself under a Truck but for some reason even though I was in great anguish I thought what if the Driver swerves to miss me and kills someone else, yes I was willing to die but I was not prepared to let anyone be hurt because of my evilness and so I went back to my Hospital room and found a Gideon’s Bible in the draw and I cried out to God to please help me and the Scripture that was in front of me said… The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availed much. I remembered a very caring Elder who had been in a Church I went to and I phoned him.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:52:50 +0000

Being Born again and Perfected in Love – 1 John 3:1-11…Do we have the Mind of Christ and if so does Jesus choose to sin? 1 Corinthians 2:15-16, If we are sealed by The Holy Spirit can we be unsealed, if we are Adopted by God does He unadopt us, Ephesians1:1-23 if we have been made spotless and pure Ephesians 5:26-28 and cleansed of all unrighteousness. If we no longer have the evil flesh Nature can we wallow in the mud again. If we have died with Him, can our sinful nature be born again 2 Timothy 2:11 If we are Born again of God’s seed can we be unborn, 1 John 3:9 when God conforms us into the image of His son can we be unconformed. Romans 8:28-30 If we are a Chosen Priesthood a Holy Nation a people belonging to God can we loose our Nationality, If we are seated with God Spiritually can we be evicted. Ephesians 2 If God has made us perfect, established, strengthened and settled us, can all this be taken away 1Peter 5:10

Does it depend on us or God…He chose us knowing we would repent and He disciplined us and brought us to heart repentance and He conforms us and perfects us in Love.

It is not God’s will that anyone perish, it is our choice to accept His Awesome gift of Salvation in Christ Jesus, who has set us free from sin. John 8:34-36

1John 4:16-17 God is Love; and he that dwelleth in Love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our Love made perfect.

When we are Born again we have God’s seed – 1 John 3:9 … God is Love.

Jude1:20-25

Jude1:24-25 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:22:17 +0000

The Difference…

Falling into sin…There is a difference from falling into sin and falling away when we sin before we are perfected in Love we can be forgiven, Jesus is our Advocate and we are covered by His blood and so are under God’s grace but if we are continuing to sin we have not come to true heart repentance which is turning away from sin, rejecting evil and seeking to do good by the empowering of the Holy Spirit. It is our evil flesh nature that causes us to sin it pollutes our spirit and our mind, we are to put it to death by the Spirit, Colossians 3:4-6 & 2 Corinthians 7:1 how do we do this by choosing to walk in Love then we are empowered to do so, we cannot do this by pumping up the flesh…as we put to death the flesh, we are perfected in Love, Galatians 5:22-26 and we are to aim, press on, reach forth or follow after, strain toward Philippians 3:12-14 & Romans 8:5 -17 we Trust in God for Him to finish what He started… and then we wait on Him. James 5:7-10

Falling away ….Falling away means we are rejecting Jesus Christ and His atonement if you reject Jesus what’s left, we are rejected which means we have a hard heart and because we continue to sin we die Spiritually and we will not seek repentance so we can not be brought back to repentance and we did not have Salvation it the first place. Jesus died once if His first sacrifice was not enough to bring us to perfection then we weren’t saved our repentance was not of the heart. We had a knowledge of God, we even had a Spiritual gift and so had been partakers of the Holy Ghost, but we did not show the fruit of Salvation Hebrews 6 :9 King Saul was able to prophesy but eventually sought the Occult for answers ( Satan) even after knowing God and talking to Him personally and as far as we are told he did not repent like King David did, Saul went mad even trying to kill David, who was a man after God’s own heart even though he sinned greatly and great was his repentance as was …. Luke 7:44-48

Continued next post…

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brad.dickey@gmail.com — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:40:28 +0000

Diversion… tactical tool of the Narcissistic.

Keep the eyes from.looking at them any.way.possible, except when they.can posture as MORE….knowledgeable, wise, experienced, professional, successful, Godly, owning secret knowledge…Doesn’t matter as long as they.can ensure they.loom special. When the.facade is broken, they stop trying to reason. With the one that clocked the
. They.either.attack them, threaten them, OR they try.to.rally the.troops, using one’s own family members against them even. Read about it, don’t trust me. Educate yourselves.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:23:57 +0000

Hurt people hurt people and themselves… if the pain we feel in our heart is sometimes is so overwhelming how much more must God’s be when He sees us crushed and broken, fearful, needing to be restored… He came that we would be set free from the carnage of sin…He came so we could be perfected in Love.

The cost was great but His Love was greater.

Luke 4

2 Corinthians 4

2 Corinthians 4: 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;

Christian Love Anne.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:41:00 +0000

Thank you Bob

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brad.dickey@gmail.com — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:39:43 +0000

Really bob? Wanna check that claim? It may not be YOUR image of Christ like, bitrevealing a BLATANT narcissist and protecting your other users from her is very.Christ like. I’m not overthrowing tables or killing fig trees here. The Disciples of Christ faced similar situations with early agnostics, and the circumcision group. Paul wished the circumcision group would cut their penii off to stop them feom the lies they.spread.

Listen Bobby, you 3ither dumb, innocent, or never the abuse the narcissist reaps upon people. Just Google it, it shows yoi real fast. Read about those that.are friends with one, or with people who married one, see the.aanguish and turmoil the people suffered.

Enabling that may be what you think is Christ like, hit if it is you aare pretty demented.

Remove me from yyour board, as long as I receive notes feom that psychotic woman from here trying her passiv3 aggressive wwiles on your innocent users, I’m obligated by the. CHRIST, you invoked to make them aware.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:43:19 +0000

Hi Bob, yes I agree with you if we have to force ourselves to Love and obey God what is the point that is not what He is wanting. If you forced me to Love you Bob, if that were possible, would you really feel Loved ?

Someone said to me recently pray that God will change his heart so he will want to become a Christian … God won’t go against anyone’s free will but He tells us how to find Him if we are looking – Deuteronomy 4:28 & Jeremiah 29:12-14 and how our Love will be Deuteronomy 6:4-6 but it is always our choice to Ask…..Luke 11:9-13 and when we Ask… 1 John 5:14-15 He will hear and answer.

True Love blossoms like a Rose, from a bud it burst forth and it’s fragrance fills the senses with a sweetness that diffuses in the heart with a song and can’t be removed lingering long… ever tried smelling a plastic Rose Bob.

Matthew 13:44 The greatest Treasure in all our lives is knowing The Lord is in our Heart – because He is Love.

Christian Love Anne.

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brad.dickey@gmail.com — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:46:12 +0000

You and I both know who i was talking about. And I’m sure you will admit it was impossible for them to not respond. See, once you have.nailed a person’s personality, the become a stringed instrument you.can make tons of music with.

It was irresistable to be silent and not, “show me” wasnt it? Thanx for proving my point.

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Anne Stocks — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:06:41 +0000

Well I agree that God must always have the Last Word and He does even if we think we do.

James 4:10-11 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He shall lift you up. Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Proverbs 31: 26

Colossians 3:4-6 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.

Romans 6:17-19

2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

2 Corinthians 13:11

Romans 8 5- 17 Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation—but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. or if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

Philippians 2:14-15

James 4:7-10 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and He will flee from you.Come near to God and He will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will lift you up.

1 Peter 2:7-12

1 John 5:2 -5 By this we know that we Love the children of God, when we Love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the Love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.

2 Timothy 4:7-8 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the Faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing.

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brad.dickey@gmail.com — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 01:56:49 +0000

Believer, read about narcissistic behavior. This is an ecmxcellent of the Sarx/sinful nature discusses. The narcissist first tries rom charm people to acknowledging them as an ideal, person, wife/hubby, worker, whatever. When passive aggression fails, the resort to chastening, punishment, even up to violence. Picture Glenn close/fatal attraction, 87ish. She was patterned after classicalnarcissism.

And unfortunately, we are NT to.strive to be flawless, without blemish. That isn’t the. Heart of scrioture, and puts the focus on the pperson, jot God. We are to learn to love as the father, God does. The results of the journey will have through trials and tribs, and training present a person of changed heart and mmind. And scripture is adamant, those changes are made by God, not self. Self gets in the way.

So anyone that teaches you its your job to be there distorts Scripture, and will defend that lie with all hey have.

Oh, also, another identifier of the narcissist ket the desire to always have the last word so they can control their image to others.