Aug 18

JewishI would hold that the Bible teaches the church has replaced Israel as God’s people. Christians are inwardly Jews, called the house of Israel, and are referred to as Jerusalem.

A Christian is a Jew inwardly:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The church is the house of Israel:
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Before we were saved we were aliens from Israel:
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Now only saved Israelis are Israel:
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Salvation brings us to Zion or the heavenly Jerusalem:
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

The bride of Christ is the heavenly Jerusalem:
Rev 21:9,10 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Our mother – the church – is Jerusalem:
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Unconverted Jews are anti-Christ:
1 Joh 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1. The above scriptures are pretty clear and there are more OT scriptures that bare this truth out.

2. God is not a polygamist who has two wives.

3. Those that are of the spirit of antichrist are not God’s people.

I feel like the 3 above points are unanswerable.

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9 Responses to “Who is a Jew, Israel, and Jerusalem?”

  1. 1. Bob Mutch Says:

    Hi Adrian,

    I also stand with the Lord Jesus and the apostles and love and pray for Israel and the Jews.

    I really don’t think this discussion is going anywhere so I am going to delete it. I wish you the best in this life and the next. If you are interested in having a meaningful discussion concerning the scriptures that is free from games let me know and I would be more than willing to discuss this topic with you.

    Christian love and prayers,

    Bob.

  2. 2. Adrian Says:

    Greetings Bob,
    My last comment to you my friend is, please change your website name to More Bob Mutch like and would be more in line with what is in it. Please do not claim to be someone who’s loving Israel and the jews when your replacement theology is so all over this place.
    So long my friend

  3. 3. Bob Mutch Says:

    Hi Adrian,

    It maybe that I am wrong in my doctrine but you are wrong in your attitude. You clearly need to learn how to be less judgmental toward those that disagree with you. I reaffirm that I love Israel and the Jews even though I hold that one can only be the people of God if they put their faith in Jesus the Christ.

    All Jews that have not put their faith in Jesus the Christ are antichrist, just like all Gentiles that have not put their faith in Jesus.

    2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    Rom 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Christian love and prayers,

    Bob.

  4. 4. Scott Says:

    Bob,
    I appreciate your use of the Scriptures. I have read some “Messianic” literature that does some strange things with relationships between Jew and Christian. My Savior was a Jew while on Earth. But much of modern Judaism/Yiddishkeit developed not only after Jesus’ time on Earth, but much more recently than that. Attempts to melt the two together won’t work (except they repent and believe in the Messiah).

  5. 5. Jake Wolfe Says:

    jake says the book of Hebrews was written to jews. Not to the Gentiles read ROMANS 2:13,14,15, jake

  6. 6. Derek Says:

    A god that would favor one race of people over another is a god created by man.

  7. 7. Danny Says:

    Thank you for this excellent blog! I’ve noticed that some misinformed people are trying to lead you away from the truth of the gospel, be strong in the faith and don’t be intimidated by any Zionist Christian heresies that are spreading like cancer through the church for political gains.
    For the gospel speaks plainly about this issue. It’s not through our physical birth through a Jewish mother that makes us the children of god but by being born of the holy spirit that we become the children of god.
    needless to say we should love all, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists… ALL people love them equally and direct them to the truth of Christ’s salvation, because only through Christ can we be redeemed.
    And for all who think that being and Jew has some special place with god, why don’t you do the following:
    1. Reject Christ as our god and messiah, reject his death and resurrection.
    2. Get circumcised.
    3. Observe the Sabbath and all the law.
    4. And become a Jew (convert to Judaism)!
    Because you think by doing this you’ll attain god’s salvation?

  8. 8. Christine Says:

    please advise if 10 percent was meant for us or for the judes and Isiralites.

    who are we in the bible

  9. 9. bob Says:

    Hi Christine,

    There are a number of offerings or tithes in the old covenant Bible.

    Year by Year Tithe — 10%. Ever year there was 10% given of “thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks” Deut 14:23
    Year of Tithing — 3.3%. Ever 3 years was the year of tithing and 10% “of thine increase the third year” was given to the “Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow”. Deut 26:12
    Tithe to King — 10%. Every year there was 10% taken by the King. “Tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards” and a “tenth of your sheep” 1Sam 8:15-17.

    So this looks like 23.3% to me. If you want to keep one of them you need to keep them all. So those that teach tithing should be teaching 23% at least. This is not counting offerings of which there were many. For example 5 shekels (shekel is 1/2 oz) (Num 18:16) of silver for every man and unclean beast born which would be $75 in todays money.

    Personally I think we are to give 100% to God. It is no longer ours and we are to give it out cheerfully as the new testament directs us.

    Bob.

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